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The codes you indicated actually have nothing to do with the problem your Xterra is experiencing. The problem is with the electronic feed to the dash panel’s combination meter. This electronic device handles the varied outputs you see when you turn the ignition switch. Believe it or not, though there are many circuits involved, there is one control module that runs the whole thing. It is a 40-pin header that includes, among other things, the displays for your fuel, coolant temperature, automatic transmission status and the like.
While the problem you are experiencing may seem transmission-related, it is more correctly an electronic problem with the display control module. From looking over the schematics, it looks to be line 20 of the 40-pin device that controls the fate of your transmission status display.
You will need some specialized test equipment to check out any problem with this module. At the very least, you will need a good volt-ohmmeter to test the voltage levels that are required, if you feel you are qualified to handle the chore. It is rather tedious, to be honest, and requires constantly checking to see the exact voltage values. They are also easy to miss.
You will need someone expert in working with this type of equipment to handle everything. The good news is that it is unlikely to keep you grounded because, as far as I can determine, there is no linkage between that module and the other key modules of the automatic transmission circuit.
Need a replacement transmission? Quality transmissions are hard to find. Free estimate to your email.HostgatorMemberYou can relax about the transmission, it isn’t the cause of your problem. In fact, the tranny is more than likely just as good as the day it was installed. You have problems elsewhere in the engine compartment. From the sound of your description — I would need an OBD-II scanner to prove the exact mechanical problem — I think the problem is primarily electrical or electronic. Here’s the reason: when you start a car today, there’s a short time after you key the ignition on and before it takes over that’s hardly a second or two long when you can see gauges like the thermostat or tachometer strobe quickly and then settle down. (Strobing is when a gauge swings up quickly after the circuit it is on charges up and begins communicating with the vehicle’s engine control module (ECM) which is the master computer for the motor. This is the device that collects all of the information about faults and any other statistics that the designers want monitored. If you watch closely you can see the swing up and back again as the engine settles in to run mode.) And, since you told my that the gauges jumped before your Odyssey died, I suspect that a major fault is being thrown somewhere in the ignition or charging system.
If the problem were in the transmission then you would likely be able to move the Odyssey at any time because it would go into limp-home mode. Limp-home is the manufacturer’s way of allowing your vehicle to lump on home or to a service area if the transmission has trouble or a fault is thrown indicating there is a problem somewhere in the transmission. Yes, it’s possible that even a brief system fault can make your vehicle go into limp-home. With that said, in limp-home you have at least one gear forward and, possibly, reverse, depending on the issue at hand.
Given that, the way your Honda is acting tells me that there’s a fault occurred that not only knocked your minivan out for the count, but which kept it out of action afterward. Your technician will need the OBD-II scanner to find out the problem, however, if you have some patience you will find the cause.
Like I said, from the sound of it, the problem seems to be either electrical or electronic. The electrical side of the equation means the problem could lie in the wiring or in the alternator circuitry and charging circuit. The electronic side of the equation is any of the many sensors and control modules that are used in engines today. Depending on the model, there are anywhere from eight to 27 command modules that control individual systems. They are all polled by the ECM and the results are stored in memory. The same is true of the sensors which each control module monitors.
I urge you to get your Odyssey into the shop as quickly as possible to have the problem checked out. If you use a dealership may I suggest looking for a newer used model, if you are looking for for second vehicle, using your Odyssey as a trade. Getting something newer and a bit more reliable is a good idea in your situation. The $1,200 to $2,000 that you will likely invest in finding the exact electrical/electronic fault and having it repaired seems better invested in a newer vehicle.
HostgatorMemberAt least you know one good thing, the transmission isn’t at fault here. The fact is I don’t think it is even contributing to your Toyota’s problem. Look elsewhere for the problem. I suspect you may have a problem with the cooling system as engines seldom shut down in the manner you describe unless there is something catastrophic about to take place, like a meltdown or something.
Be sure to check the coolant level in the plastic reservoir to make sure there’s enough anti-freeze/coolant in the block so that your engine won’t turn into a pile of molten metal.
HostgatorMemberThe P0455 code points to a problem with your car’s fuel system. Specifically, the code means that there’s a failure in the EVAP (evaporative canister) system. You may wonder if this problem will have some sort of impact on your ‘Stang’s tranny and the answer is quite certainly no. However, if you look at the sensors that are monitored by your Mustang’s engine control module (ECM), also known at the car’s main computer, you may notice that there are a couple of the sensors used to monitor your car’s engine and emissions subsystems, both.
The first is the Mass Airflow Sensor of MAF. The MAF sensor senses changes in the amount of air being drawn into your Mustang’s engine. Several systems, including the ignition and transmission, react to changes reported by the MAF. The same is true of the MAP or Manifold Air Pressure sensor (some call it the barometric sensor) which measures the pressure in the manifold and changes it according to the engine’s needs. And, then, there’s the Throttle Position Sensor which looks where the throttle is positioned and then makes the engine react accordingly, after it has reported things to the ECC.
Given the P0455 EVAP code, it is possible that your Mustang is suffering from a problem anywhere from the torque converter right through to the output shaft, however, I honestly doubt it. I would have your mechanic concentrate on the most obvious areas impacted by the EVAP system, looking really closely at the fuel-line filter for fouling. If the fuel-line filter is clogged then your Mustang would react in the manner you describe.
I would also have your tech, while under the hood, look at the gas tank, to be sure there’s no junk fouling the fuel pump. Debris in the bottom of the tank might do this. I would also have your current load of gasoline drained out and replaced with a new load. The reason is that gasoline, since it now has a bit of alcohol or methanol included for performance enhancement, can become water-attractive. Water is not helpful for ignition at all.
February 9, 2016 at 2:03 am in reply to: 2004 Tahoe Transmission/Harness Replaced – Shifter Problem #3129HostgatorMemberThis sounds like a problem with the shifter itself. There are any number of reasons that this might be happening. Here’s a list of the possibilities:
— A shifter problem: It’s possible that the shift mechanism could be wearing out and needs to be replaced. It might keep your transmission stuck in Park and not shifting at all. You may need to have the shifter mechanism replaced.
— A shifter lock problem: When you slam the shift into Park, you not only set the pawl that locks the output shaft and keeps the transmission from spinning, but you also effectively lock the shifter as a special lock engages. The lock usually releases when you press the brake after you start, but sometimes it doesn’t. It’s a fairly easy fix that involves popping the tab of the shift lock override unit and pressing the button beneath, while your foot’s on the brake. Your shift will slide out of park and you will be able to start but you will have to get to a service area before you can engage Park again. The override unit is the tiny button-like access panel you will find on the gearshift console near the unit.
— A neutral-start problem: The switch might be wearing out. This switch, which works with the shift interlock solenoid, requires you to press the brake before you can release the shifter. This could be sticky or the solenoid could be failing. Also, there might be a wiring problem.
— A shift interlock solenoid problem: The shift interlock solenoid which requires you to press the brake before you can engage the shifter may be failing. It might be a wiring problem or a problem with the solenoid itself. It’s something that you should have your mechanic check.
— A gearshift cable problem: The gearshift cable may be stretched and may, at times, bind, preventing the necessary take-up so that you can shift out of Park.
As you can see, there are a bunch of possible problems that may be affecting your SUV. For my money, I would check the gearshift cable and the interlock solenoid. Either one can cause the problem you describe — as can the others but not so intermittently — and can keep your transmission locked up.
February 8, 2016 at 9:44 am in reply to: My celerio zxi 2015 October model gives problem while down shifting from gear #3112HostgatorMemberThis may sound a bit cheeky of me, but, I have to ask you a question, why are you downshifting manually while you are driving? This is a big no-no in most circles as you are putting huge stresses on your transmission. The chance of failure is huge.
If you answer the question, honestly, I can help you out better.
HostgatorMemberHere’s a good new-bad news answer. The good news is that your Frontier’s transmission is still working nicely at 150,000 miles. The bad news is that there’s no way to get to the tail bearing you mentioned without getting into the transmission in a major way.
You can breath a little more easily, though, when you realize that even though they may have replaced the major components of the transmission, there are still other parts that have remained the same. And, due to uneven wear rates (newer versus older), it’s honestly quite right to expect a bit of oddity now and then.
To be truthful, either you live with the strangeness, or you are going to have to shell out another, say, $1,500 to have the problem fixed. The reason it won’t be $2,000 again is that you have already replaced most of the MAJOR parts, but there are still one or two that likely need replacement now. Once you have had that service performed then your transmission and your Frontier will be happy campers again.
February 8, 2016 at 9:35 am in reply to: 2004 Explorer shifts into gear but wheels do not engage #3110HostgatorMemberIt sounds like the Park setting has gone a bit haywire. You see when you shift your Explorer into Park there’s a lot going on. While you might see it as simple, when you push the selector into P(ark), a bushing at the end of the output shaft that has a series of dogs or notches on the collar must line up with an anchor point on its housing. When everything aligns correctly, your vehicle stops and won’t move again.
Normally, when you shift back into gear, the output shaft and its housing separate so that the output shaft can spin freely and your Explorer can go into and out of gear and you can go on your way.
Now, in the valve body there is a series of levers that line things up so that your Explorer’s transmission can go into Park and the bushings and the housing can mate, immobilizing the shaft and your car. If one of those small levers has slipped or bent, then it is unlikely that you will be able to get your car to move again, even though the shifter is moving.
Since the levers aren’t deactivating the lockup between the output shaft and its housing, even though your shifter may be going back and forth and even though the gears are engaging correctly, your Explorer just won’t move.
I know it may seem odd, that it must be something big, but I suspect that lever that’s about six inches long is to blame. And, since it is in the valve body, which sits astride the transmission housing, it’s a lot easier to get to.
Yes, it will cost about $525 for the work, but, think about it: at least you won’t have to replace the transmission which costs about six times as much.
HostgatorMemberIt’s quite possible it could be a lazy solenoid, though, when they fail, they go down hard and stay there. With that said, though, you might still be in luck. You see most transmissions are controlled by the transmission control module (a fancy way of saying a specialized computer). The control module looks at many inputs including a number of sensors such as the mass airflow sensor, the mass air pressure sensor, the throttle positioning sensor and even a thermostatic sensor that ensures the transmission is operating within performance specs.
It is quite possible that one of those sensors could be failing and that could be causing your problem. It’s easy to check out as all you have to do is ask the technician to run a diagnostic scan with an OBD-II scanner and if there is a problem code stashed away, it will show up. It will tell you the part or area of the transmission that is failing.
Now, here’s a suggestion that is always a good starting point. Take a look at the transmission fluid. One part of my mind keeps on being nagged by the jerking as it goes into fourth. It could be a slipping clutch/band combination or it may just be that your transmission is slightly low on fluid. When this happens, the transmission relies on increasing internal pressure to compensate for the lowered fluid.
It’s one of those things that works most of the time and sometimes slips. It sounds like your transmission could be low just enough fluid so that all of the parts of fourth gear are mostly covered and work correctly, but there are times, say when accelerating, when there’s just enough force holding up the transmission fluid flow to make it go clunk. And, while you are at it switch out the transmission filter as it might just be clogged enough to prevent adequate fluid flow at times.
February 5, 2016 at 11:57 pm in reply to: my 2002 toyota alion 1zz engine 4weel drive wont change gear 3 #2995HostgatorMemberYou noted the CEL flashed and went out. My question to you is this: did it seem normal or was it a long time in going out? If so, it is likely finding error codes and storing them for future readout. Let me know. I still suspect you have major issues all over the transmission. It’s quite possible that the valve body is having a problem with a check valve isn’t working. Or, both of the transmission solenoids have failed, as well, which will also create quite a problem. As you can see, it is possible that it is a mechanical problem or an electronic problem or a combination of both.
If you can narrow it down a little more for me, I’d greatly appreciate it.
The bottom line for you, though, is that it’s probably best to swap in a rebuilt transmission. It should solve the problem.
HostgatorMemberYou can’t really see anything yourself as you have to have a trained technician with an OBD-II diagnostic scanner plug in and take a look. The chances are good there’s an error code stored with 07 as the first two digits. That indicates it is transmission-related in most cars. From there on out there are two other numbers which narrow things down. However, you don’t have to know what the last two numbers mean as the scanner will give you the entire error code.
Your technician can then look at the error code and see where the problem is.
With that said, at this point, I would advise you to have the transmission replaced with a rebuilt transmission. A rebuilt transmission, by the way, is only “rebuilt” in name only. When it arrives at the shop, it’s really a new unit inside a used housing. It is less expensive for you this way. It will cost you between $3,200 and $3,400 but when it’s done, you won’t be having the problems you are having now.
HostgatorMemberThere’s no easy way to say this, so I’ll let you know right up front, you are going to have to change out the entire transmission. The reason I am saying that is that your Alion has gone into limp-home mode and your repairs aren’t clearing up the problem enough for the vehicle to go back to normal operation.
Limp-home mode occurs when something like the clutches or clutches and bands or the gears or, possibly, just one of the solenoids, fails to work and sends an error code the the vehicle’s engine control computer. When the computer sees it’s a transmission-related code, it tells the transmission to go into limp-home mode. Limp-home usually leaves you one forward gear and, possibly, no reverse or just one forward gear and reverse.
It enters this mode so that you can drive your Alion to a service area and have it properly evaluated and repaired.
Honestly, it won’t do to keep swapping out the gearing because that’s not the problem. The problem isn’t in the shifter or cable, either. It is in the clutches/bands which need work.
February 2, 2016 at 2:56 am in reply to: my 2002 toyota alion 1zz engine 4weel drive wont change gear 3 #2716HostgatorMemberCan I ask you for a bit of help? You say: “…he advised me to change [the] complete gear box…”, right? No, I am wondering, do you mean the transmission or just the gearbox? And, if you are saying gearbox, does your Toyota have a stick? Most of the time, when I see an all-wheel-drive or 4WD vehicle, it usually has a four- or six-cylinder engine that’s hooked up to an automatic. Is this the case? Please send me a short note with an answer and then I’ll be more in a position to help.
While you are sending the note, can you also let me know if you have lost any gears and whether the CEL (check engine light) has flashed on? If either condition exists, it means you have significant problems. Please let me know, asap.
HostgatorMemberThere’s a lot going on with the transmission, most of which you won’t see. However, I think the key to the problem is in clutches/bands. The clutches act just like the clutch pedal/throwout bearing/friction/clutch plate in a manual transmission. When you depress the clutch, the mechanical linkage between the clutch plate and the friction plate is broken. This enables you not only to change gears but also to synchronize he revs between the engine and transmission so that happens smoothly when you release the clutch pedal again. Instead of grinding, the takeup between gears is smooth.
Instead of having one clutch, the automatic has several, one for each set of gears. So, if your transmission is a five-speed auto then there are five clutch/band combos. They serve the same purpose as the clutch in the manual. They makes sure the engine and tranny are at the same rev point before they engage. Engagement is assisted by the bands. It’s usually not even noticeable, it is so smooth.
If, however, there is a clutch problem, then your car can buck and slip going between gears. This is exactly what you are describing. Getting this fixed does require a major transmission teardown and partial rebuild so you are probably looking at a $2,250 investment.
Be sure they swap out the clutch/band pairs together so that everything works and wears correctly.
While the transmission is open, have your technician take a close look at the planetary gearing to make sure they are engaging smoothly. This is the gearing that honestly changes when you go through the gears and it has to be working smoothly, as well.
If both need work, it’s probably a better idea to have a rebuilt tranny dropped in because it will save you money, even at $3,400.
January 31, 2016 at 4:58 pm in reply to: Dodge Dakota sport 2001 hard shifting 1st and 2nd gear #2675HostgatorMemberYour Dakota pickup is likely suffering from a case of bad synchronizers. Since the 1960s, manual transmissions on smaller vehicles have had what is known as synchronizers installed on each gear. The purpose of the syncros is simple, it keeps the gears from clashing together when you shift from gear to gear. (Standard transmissions, unlike automatics, make you do the work of shifting. As you go through the shift pattern, each gear will link and then unlink as you move up toward overdrive. Until the 1960s, you had to match the speed of the gear you had selected and were shifting with the speed of the already-spinning gear choice in the transmission. If you didn’t match them carefully, the gears clashed and ground, possibly causing damage. Enter the synchronizers which handled matching the speeds automatically so your gearshifts were smooth and seamless.)
I suspect the synchros on first and second in your Dakota are shot and should be replaced. The reason I am suggesting this is simply that they work for the first few minutes and then stop. This is one sign that a part has failed or is on the way to failing but hasn’t quite made it yet.
I would get the problem seen to quickly as it is only a matter of time before third, fourth and fifth joint first and second. If you have it repaired now, it will cost you about $700. If you wait and the repairs become more extensive, you are looking at easily doubling that expense.
HostgatorMemberWhen it’s in reverse, it wants to go forward? That seems more than a little weird, now, doesn’t it? To answer my own question, it certainly does. On looking into your question, there are a couple of conditions that can cause this. The first is the first/reverse assembly. It may be locked up and if it is then your Mazda won’t go into reverse, but will go forward. In first or second, it will also go forward. Of that assembly, either the first/reverse brake may be gone or the first/reverse clutch may be gone. In other words, the whole assembly has to be checked.
The second problem is a problem with the valve body. Since the valve body directs the fluid to the right gear, there could be a problem with a check valve. If, for example, the valve that directs the fluid to reverse is blocked, your reverse gear won’t receive any fluid and your Mazda will remain in forward. This is a rare problem, but it does occur.
Another area to have checked is the front planetary gear assembly. It’s possible that the transmission isn’t seeing reverse, even though the indicator slips into reverse because there’s a problem with the gearing. Given what you have said about your Mazda, even though this is not the most common condition that happens in a transmission, I’d still advise you to have it checked.
Finally, have the transmission fluid checked. It it is blackened and smells burnt, the chances are that it has gone bad. When tranny fluid goes bad, among the first things to go are the clutches. It is possible, then, that your Mazda’s clutches are shot — at least reverse — and your Mazda will only go forward because it is not going into reverse at all.
HostgatorMemberIt looks to me like both of your solenoids failed at the same time. There are two, you know. If you only replace one (there’s one that’s pretty easy to locate on the valve body and the second which is inside the valve body and isn’t easy to reach) and if the second has gone, your vehicle will hang up in gear and not shift.
You will have to take Explorer to a specialist to see where the problem lies, but, I honestly think it is in the electronics.
If only one of the two solenoids has gone, then it is possible that a sensor or sensor cluster has passed out and isn’t working any more. This may have caused a cascade effect on the electronic side of things, taking out several systems.
Here are the steps to take to see where the problem is, since you know it’s likely an electronic fault (your Explorer is in limp-home mode, by the way, among other things):
1. Get to your service area
2. Have your technician put an OBD-II diagnostic scanner into the diagnostic slot at the left-hand
side of the dash panel
3. Read the codes
4. Pinpoint where the problem isI think it is very likely that this will reveal exactly where the problem is because I think it is strictly electronic.
HostgatorMemberThis is a tough one but I think your transmission is just beginning to wear out. Your S10 is now 27 years old and while the mileage isn’t excessive for a vehicle of that age, just the fact that it is so ancient (I don’t know what the equivalent of car years is to human years, but, given the stresses that vehicles have to live with it’s probably on the order of a dog, 7 years. That makes your truck 189 human years old. It’s not youngster that’s for sure.)
All kidding aside, it just sounds like parts are wearing out. More than likely, when you have it opened you’ll find the bands are living life on the edge right now. They are neither quite failing nor are they working correctly. I suspect that they are stretching far beyond whatever their limits may have been.
You do indicate you perform regular upkeep on the tranny, however, I suspect that you never had the clutches and bands replaced or, if you have had them done, it was so long ago, that you aren’t thinking about it. With that said, take your S10 to your service shop and have a trained tech take a look at your transmissions. The chances are pretty good that the problem lies there.
One other suggestion that just came to mind is this: take another look at the tranny fluid level. It is entirely possible for a transmission to read full when it is cold. Did you let your S10 warm up thoroughly? If not, then, it is more than certainly either the bands or the transmission fluid level. And, though I honestly thing the problem is with the bands, it, equally as well, could be with the fluid level.
January 28, 2016 at 4:03 pm in reply to: 2001 toyota camry 3.0 automatic transmission will not go into any gear #2629HostgatorMemberHaving gone over the 12 or so possible causes of your Camry’s problem and having re-read your description, I have to think that the problem is with the torque converter. In order for the Camry to suddenly stop moving in traffic, it has to be that particular device. You see, when the torque converter goes it is a sudden failure, just as you described.
The torque converter is the first step in your transmission’s actions. Taking the power from the input shaft before it splits off to power other devices, as well, the torque converter spins up and starts moving the transmission fluid throughout the case. Without it working, setting up the current, so to speak, your transmission doesn’t work.
Now, it is entirely possible that your transmission filter could be plugged up, preventing the flow of transmission fluid. There’s really no way to see if this is the case, other than draining the fluid, dropping the tranny cover, making sure there’s a bucket underneath to catch any drips, and locating the filter to check it. You can do this work to save a few dollars as it is straightforward and only involves a wrench (10 mil or so), the bucket, new gasketing to seat the pan correctly when you sock it up and the proper amount of transmission fluid.
With that said, I honestly think your primary candidate is the torque converter, in this case. If it is the torque converter, your best bet is to insert a rebuilt transmission (transaxle, really) in place of the old one because it is a major repair and a new converter, if that is the only device swapped out, could start putting higher pressure levels on other components that may be marginal, pushing them over the edge. The rebuilt transmission will cost about $3,400.
HostgatorMemberQuestion to you: you said you had the “transmission rebuilt.” Can you tell me exactly what they rebuilt? Did they swap out the clutches/bands? Did they do any work on the gears? Did they do work on the valve body? Were any of the solenoids or sensors changed? And, how about the torque converter, was it touched? Finally, and most basically, is there enough transmission fluid in the tranny? Can you get me the answers?
The reason I am asking is just because you said the tranny has been rebuilt and it certainly doesn’t act like there’s a rebuilt transmission in the casing. Perhaps a piece of the transmission was changed, but not the right one.
So, if you can get back to me, I can give you a better idea of what might be going on.
HostgatorMemberHere are a couple of thoughts. First, I don’t think your van’s problem is transmission-related. You said it yourself, when you hit the overdrive button, your van run smoother. It is entirely possible that your transmission’s clutches are slipping, which also means your bands aren’t doing their job, either. However, they aren’t all that far gone because the are, at least, working correctly part or most of the time. It is also possible that your transmission could be slightly down on transmission fluid. If that’s so, then your van would definitely perform the way you describe.
Honestly, I think your problems are mechanical. You said you are a carpet-installer and that means you are constantly carrying room-sized rolls of rolled-up carpeting. From what I have seen when the carpet guy sets up one of the units where we live for a new occupant, your truck is like-as-not loaded to or over capacity. If that’s the case, they your van’s engine would be straining and could easily perform poorly, skipping or misfiring. This is happening because the load you are carrying in the van is too great for the vehicle’s gross vehicle weight rating.
I can easily understand how this can happen as you do have to cram every bit of carpeting for a job, your tools and then yourself, and, possibly your crew, in the van. Instantly, you are over-rating and poor performance ensues.
Here’s a suggestion, if you have the time. After your next big job, when your van’s cleaned out pretty well, find the steepest and tallest hill in your city and then begin a steady-state trial run up the hill. A steady-state run is keeping your foot on the accelerator and watching that the speedo doesn’t exceed, say, 25 mph all the way up. If the hill is steep enough and tall enough, you should find at some point your van’s performance is impaired. It should begin to perform in the manner that you describe. If it doesn’t, then I will admit that it’s likely a transmission problem that is linked to slipping clutches and bands. It will cost between $1,800 and $2,400 to have a clutch/band issue diagnost and repaired.
HostgatorMemberWhile it could be the TPS (throttle positioning sensor), as it is one of the sensors that your transmission monitors, I don’t think it is. Correct me if I am wrong, but you essentially said the problem started one day and kept on getting worse and worse, but you drove, your car, anyway. I know that you do need to get around and it is easy to continue driving, while ignoring a problem, but what happens when you do is that problem keeps getting worse until the device with the problem breaks down, just as has happened with your Impala.
That said, your mechanic IS NOT scamming you. Your Impala needs a transmission replacement yesterday or the day before. On re-reading your notes regarding your Impala’s issues, your problem started when you were driving to work. I suspect at that time, your Impala either threw a code (sent it to the car’s engine control computer) that indicated something had gone bad. On seeing the code, your car went into limp-home mode and stayed there. Your car was telling you something was wrong and asking to be fixed. However, apparently you didn’t have the Impala fixed and whatever problem was indicated by the the limp-home mode became worse, to the point that your car is now badly wounded.
A quick read of the possible causes includes damage to the input shaft and its gearing, damage to the torque converter and its impeller turbine, damage to the valve body and check valves and so forth. There are so many potential causes here that pinpointing it is quite hard.
That said, though, you can be sure your transmission is on the way to that big repair shop in the sky. Sooner, far sooner, than later, your car, instead of moving even a little, won’t be moving at all, quite possibly damaging other systems that are related to the transmission line. If that happens, your repair problems get infintely worse.
Now is the time to authorize the rebuilt trnansmission and have it installed. Your old transmission will come out and go to a remanufacturer, if it is reasonable shape, where it will be rebuilt for another motorist.
I can honestly understand your skepticism with your mechanic as there are so many horror stories out there that it is tough to ignore them. Your tech, though, was being honest with you, something that many mechanics are not when he said he didn’t know about transmission. However, he did know enough to know that yours was badly wounded. He might not have known the exact cause, but he did know the result.
My solution for your car is simple, have it hooked to a transmission shop and have the rebuilt installed. It should cure your problem.
As to the specific problem, I will venture a guess and say it is likely the torque converter as it is the major device that can go and shut down your car’s transmission in a manner similar to the one you described.
Let me know what happens, I’d be interested to find out.
January 17, 2016 at 6:39 pm in reply to: my car starts great but when I put it in drive it goes as far as the stop then . #2493HostgatorMemberYour car is going into limp-home mode very quickly because there’s something very wrong with its transmission. Normally, when a car goes into limp-home mode it has experienced some event where the transmission control module (TCM, the computer that controls your transmission and works with the engine control (ECC) module) takes various inputs from the sensors it monitors (mass air flow, mass air pressure, speed tensor, throttle positioning sensor and such) as well as from the sensors the ECC monitors that work with the transmission decides there’s a problem and puts your transmission into a state where it will limp along in a forward gear or in rear and a forward gear, giving you the ability to get to a service area or to your home where you can have the vehicle towed in.
What happens is that a computer code is sent to the ECC or TCM that says the “XYZ is bad, go into limp-home.” Then, your vehicle performs very much as you indicate. It can be more than just a simple code, though. In fact — I think this is the case with your car — it may be that a mechanical part has plainly gone and the resulting performance is because of the bad system.
In your vehicle, I think it is a combination of systems, so many systems that you can pretty much think rebuilt computer and $3,000 to $3,800 expense from the start. As to the specific systems that may be involved, it sounds like there could be a problem with the torque converter and the input turbine impellers that, combined with a problem with the clutches/bands and gears, is rendering your car undrivable.
I could sugar-coat it and tell you to have this system checked and then that system checked to keep your costs down, but, when you add up all of the potential diagnostic work that might be involved, you are looking at a lot more than the $3,400 average figure. The cost is greater because you have to add in the various checks to the cost of the replacement transmission you will be having installed.
HostgatorMemberI wish there was a visible way to check it out, but, the torque converter is located in the transmission housing. This means the the shop will have to drop the wheels and front end so they can get to the transmission and open it up. Once they are inside, your technician will be able to look things over faily quickly. This isn’t an inexpensive chore, either, as it will likely set you back around $1,400. Still, it is lots less expensive than paying for a new vehicle.
HostgatorMemberWhen you drained out the fluid, did you remember to drop the pan cover? If not, you likely have ended up with more fluid in the transmission, probably a quart or so. If you don’t remove the tranny cover to take out the bit of fluid — actually a quart or so — it remains locked up and when you refill it you automatically end up with more fluid. Check the level again as soon as you can and you may find this is the case.
Are you also saying that the transmission is performing as it did with old fluid/filter? I think your analysis of the transmission’s performance was done before the change out, right? If so, how is it performing with the changed fluid/filter?
Leaving aside the other mechanical components in the transmission, for now, your next step should be to a transmission shop with OBD-II diagnostic scanner. Have the shop guys perform a check of your car’s engine control system to see if any codes have been thrown and collected by the system memory. At this level, you will find any error codes that may have been generated by a failed electronic or electrical part, or even a mechanical part, if the software covers it, is quite general. However, it will point you in the direction of the issue. You may possibly be able to fine-tune it by checking the transmission control module, looking for transmission-specific error codes.
Until I have a bit more information in hand, I can only speculate the you are likely looking at a key sensor failure such as the Mass AirFlow (MAF) sensor or the Mass Air Pressure sensor. If either one goes down, your transmission could easily perform in the manner you suggest. The same is true if one of the transmission solenoids (they are located inside and on the valve body) as they determine which gear your vehicle is shifting in to.
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