Torque Converter Problems: Symptoms & Replacement Cost

Torque converter problems are sometimes misinterpreted as symptoms of a failing transmission. Unfortunately, this can lead people to think that they need to spend thousands of dollars to rebuild or replace their automatic transmission when the cost to replace a malfunctioning torque converter is considerably cheaper.

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What Transmission Do I Have?

A local auto repair shop will be able to determine whether or not the problem lies in the transmission itself or the torque converter. Finding a reputable shop is very important because as we have mentioned, the symptoms can be very similar and a transmission replacement is considerably more expensive.

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However, diagnosing the cause of a transmission issue isn’t easy. In many cases, the torque converter will not actually be the source of the problem (you might just have a fluid leak!). The purpose of this guide is to simply help you narrow down the possibilities and educate yourself before you get your transmission checked out.

What Does a Torque Converter Do?

In a nutshell, a torque converter is a fluid coupling that transfers torque from the engine to the transmission. It is mounted between the engine and transmission, bolted directly to a ‘flex plate’ which is spun by the crankshaft.

Torque Converter Between Engine Driveshaft

Internal combustion engines create power by burning fuel that forces the pistons to turn the crankshaft located at the bottom of the engine. This rotational force is transferred to the transmission by the fluid pressure inside the torque converter.

Torque Converter Separated

Inside of the torque converter cover lives a series of propeller-like blades called the pump. This assembly spins in unison with the engine crankshaft, forcing transmission fluid onto another blade assembly called the impeller. This second set of blades is connected to the transmission input shaft. The amount of hydraulic pressure that it creates inside the transmission dictates the gear and ultimately, the speed of the vehicle.

The impeller’s speed is regulated by the engine side of this hydrodynamic circuit (ie. speed of the pump blades). When the vehicle is stationary, or the driver applies the brakes, the impeller will slow considerably, while the pump continues to spin. This allows the torque converter to act like the clutch in a manual transmission – it allows the engine to continue running while the vehicle is at a complete stop.

Once the transmission fluid has been hurled onto the impeller blades, it has to return to the pump in order to keep the cycle going. Since the fluid is now flowing in a different direction than the pump, it has to be reversed to avoid slowing down (and stalling) the engine.

To do this, a third finned wheel called the stator is located between the two turbines on the transmission pump shaft. Its blades are precisely angled so that when the transmission fluid hits them, it reverses direction and gets channeled back to the pump. When the vehicle stops, its built-in one-way clutch causes it to stop spinning, breaking the hydrodynamic circuit.

Once the vehicle starts to accelerate from a stop, the stator is once again free to spin. In the split second that the transmission fluid hits the back of the now-released stator, it starts to spin the transmission pump, and briefly multiplies the torque coming from the engine side of the circuit. This causes the transmission pump to force more fluid in the transmission, resulting in movement.

Once the vehicle is in motion, the stator’s one-way clutch allows it to start spinning in the same direction as the other turbines, reversing the fluid flow and completing the hydrodynamic circuit.

After all of the transmission gears have been shifted through and the vehicle has reached cruising speed, the lockup clutch engages, connecting the front cover of the torque converter (aka the pump) to the impeller. This causes all of the turbines to work together in a direct drive/overdrive scenario.

6 Signs of Torque Converter Problems

It isn’t easy to isolate and diagnose a torque converter issue without taking the transmission/drivetrain apart, but there are several symptoms to look for. A few of the signs of a malfunctioning torque converter include: shuddering, contaminated fluid, gears change at high RPMs and strange sounds such as clicking or whirring.

Slipping

Since a torque converter is responsible for translating engine torque into the hydraulic pressure needed to shift gears inside the transmission, a damaged fin or bearing can cause the transmission to delay a shift, or slip out of gear.

Slipping can also be caused by there being not enough or too much fluid in the transmission. You may also experience a loss of acceleration and a noticeable reduction in your car’s fuel economy.
Be sure to check your fluid levels before taking your car to a shop.

Overheating

If the temperature gauge indicates that your car is overheating, it could be a sign that there has been a drop in fluid pressure and there is a problem with your torque converter. If a converter is overheating, it won’t be able to transfer power from the engine to the transmission. This results in poor throttle response, and excessive wear and tear on the internal workings of the transmission.

Low fluid levels or a malfunctioning solenoid can also cause a transmission to overheat.

Shuddering

If the lockup clutch inside the torque converter is starting to malfunction, you may experience shuddering at around 30-45 mph. The sensation is very noticeable and typically feels like you’re driving over a rough road with many small bumps. As the converter switches over to direct drive, a worn lockup clutch can make the transition difficult, resulting in this sensation. The feeling may start and stop abruptly and may not last long, but if you’ve experienced it several times, it’s time to get your transmission checked.

Contaminated Transmission Fluid

A torque converter is filled with automatic transmission fluid (ATF). If the fluid is contaminated, it can do damage the parts inside. This can result in worn bearings on the stator, or damaged fins on one of the turbines.

If you notice a significant amount of black sludge/grime/debris in the fluid it could mean that the converter or transmission itself is damaged. In this case, change the fluid and drive around for a while before checking the fluid again. If the problem persists, get your car checked by a professional.

Higher Stall Speed/Gear Engagement RPM

The ‘stall speed’ is the point at which the engine RPMs are high enough for the torque converter to transfer power from the engine to the transmission. In other words, it is the RPM at which the converter will stop the engine speed from increasing if transmission output is prohibited.

If the torque converter is broken, it won’t be able to transfer the engine’s rotational force into hydraulic pressure correctly. This will result in the transmission taking longer to engage the engine, causing the stall speed to increase. Here is how to do a stall speed test. You’ll have to find out what your vehicles stall speed is beforehand (typically 2000 to 2500 RPM).

Strange/Unusual Sounds

It’s not uncommon for the torque converter to emit strange noises as it begins to fail. Some of the sounds you might hear include a ‘whirring’ sound coming from bad bearings, or ‘clinking’ sound coming from a broken turbine fin.

How to Diagnose the Problem

Here is how you can try diagnose the problem yourself. At each step, listen carefully for unusual slipping, shuddering, lurching forward or strange noises:

  1. Start your car and let it run for a couple minutes
  2. Press the gas down lightly several times
  3. Push the brake and shift the car into drive
  4. Slowly shift through each gear
  5. Drive around the block, listening carefully every time you accelerate

Do Not Drive With a Broken Converter

Important to note – a converter can slowly fail over the course of several weeks or even months before it completely breaks down. Driving a vehicle with one that is damaged can be risky as it can completely disintegrate when it breaks down – adding metal debris into the transmission fluid. The contaminated transmission fluid can then make its way into the transmission and cause significant damage or even complete failure, turning what could have been a simple converter replacement into an expensive transmission repair or replacement. To prevent this, pull off the road when it is safe to do so and shut off the engine.

Common Causes of Torque Converter Problems

There are a few reasons why problems can occur. Don’t assume what the problem is until you have your transmission looked at, but here are some general ideas of what it could be.

Bad Torque Converter Needle Bearings

The impeller, turbine and stator use needle bearings in order to turn freely. The bearings separate these rotating components from the converter housing. If these bearings are damaged, you’ll notice reduced power, strange noises and bits of metal in the transmission fluid due to metal on metal contact/grinding.

Damaged Torque Converter Seals

If you notice a transmission fluid leak coming from the bell housing, then you might have a damaged torque converter seal. If your torque converter can’t hold the proper amount of ATF, then it won’t be able to transfer power from the engine to the transmission effectively. This will result in overheating, shifting problems, strange noises, higher stall speeds, and slipping between the gears. The bad seal will need to be found and replaced.

Worn Torque Converter Clutch

Automatic transmissions have a number of clutches located throughout the assembly. A torque converter clutch is responsible for locking the engine and transmission into direct drive.

If the torque converter has been burned by overheating, become jammed/locked up due to distortion or contaminants in the transmission fluid have damaged the friction material on it, then your car may stay in gear even though you come to a stop. The converter can also shake and not lock itself into direct drive if the friction material on the clutch plate has worn away.

Faulty Torque Converter Clutch Solenoid

A torque converter clutch solenoid regulates the amount of transmission fluid that the converter’s lockup clutch receives. If this electronic device can’t accurately meter the fluid pressure, then the lockup clutch will not work properly as a result of too much or too little fluid supply. This can result in loss of the direct drive function, poor gas mileage and engine stalling.

Torque Converter Replacement Cost

If you’ve noticed one or more of the above symptoms, then it’s possible that your torque converter is malfunctioning. The cost of getting it repaired can be higher than simply replacing it, so be sure to have a mechanic/technician take a look.

RepairCost Range
DIY$150 to $500
Transmission Shop$600 to $1000

If you plan to do the work yourself, then you’ll be looking at a repair cost between $150 and $500.
Repair shops will charge between $600 and $1000 to replace a torque converter.

The torque converter itself is relatively inexpensive (between $150 and $350, depending on the vehicle), but 5-10 hours of labor is involved since the transmission must be removed in order to replace the torque converter.

The fluid should also be flushed/changed at the same time, which may or may not be included in the price a shop gives you.

Need a replacement transmission? Get an estimate for replacement transmissions and local installation. Look up your transmission model by vehicle make and model.

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Jeff
5 years ago

My 2010 Chevy impala will drive down the street about a mile, shift through all 4 gears then it won’t go any more. I pull over shut off the ignition then restart it and it does the same thing. I think I hear a faint whining noise also. Can you help. Thank you.

Daniel
5 years ago

I’ve got a 1996 GMC Sierra 5.7 vortec 4l60e transmission. As of today the transmission has no power at take off it’s as if it’s in 2nd gear p1860 and p1864 instantly pop up every time I crank my truck and I kinda hear a noise sounds right at the torque converter that I haven’t been hearing any ideas on what has happened

David
5 years ago

Will it not engage starter?

Amanda Steadman
5 years ago

My rpms shot up really high then stopped then it happened again .it wud only go in reverse after that but only for short periods of time and then it all together quit. I noticed my transmission fluid was low so I filled it up it went a little further and quit again

Heidi
5 years ago

I have a 2017 Chevy Colorado crew cab and took it to dealer in November for torque shuddering. They said they could only flush the fluid and permanently fix the issue after January-when Chevy apparently authorizes them to do something-not sure because they like to talk their lingo to us ladies, hoping we don’t understand. anyway, took it in again since shuddering is back. They claim it just needs flushed again. No mention of replacing the torque converter. Is fluid changing going to resolve this issue or again is it just a band-aide.

Bob
5 years ago

Jerks clicking let off go forward works fine today work find

Tim
5 years ago

Leaking oil after changing engine

Melissa
5 years ago

I have a 2005 Altima, 2.5L, automatic transmission. Car starts and idles fine, until I put it into drive or reverse. Then it stalls out. Could this be a torque converter issue? The vehicle is currently at a transmission repair shop, and they are telling me I need a new transmission, and I’m not sure how true that is. Thank you.

Rlynn
2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa

I have this exact issue in my 2p11 hyundai sonata. Did you find out what it is from?

George
5 years ago

I have a 2017 Honda Accord EX-L 6 cylinder w 70,000. Ever since I bought it, I’ve had this shuttering problem of which the dealer has told me the transmission fluid wears out too fast this causing the shuttering. The dealer finally agreed to put in a new torque converter on Friday. Today, Monday, was my first day of driving around 200 miles and towards the end of those miles, the car started it shuttering. Questions: 1) do I have a CVT transmission or a regular one; 2) is there a transmission additive I can use to help decrease the shuttering; 3) there has always been a vibration that I can feel in the steering wheel at 1500 rpms, no matter the gear, could this be the torque converter or the transmission itself; is there any solution for the shuttering?

LARRY
5 years ago

2009 HONDA PILOT SHUDDER AT 38 -40 MILES A hour

Melissa
5 years ago
Reply to  LARRY

If you’ve figured this out please let me know I have the same exact issue at 38-40

Don
5 years ago

Check engine light. 2003 Toyota Tundra. What to do?

Jason
5 years ago

2004 Toyota Corolla check engine Code PO741

EDOME
5 years ago

Can a torque converter fail without showing a diagnostic code? 2009 4Runner with shudders at 25-35 mph. Mechanic can’t figure out the issue. Diagnostics indicate a properly functioning transmission and TC. A 2.5-inch leveler kit was installed recently.

clif browne
5 years ago

shuttering around 35 to 45 mph than goes away, you can bypass shuttering by incleasing speed between the speed range of 35 to 45 mph

Melissa
5 years ago
Reply to  clif browne

What kind of car do you have ? Did you fix the problem ? I’m having the same issue 09 Ford Fusion awd

bernie staley
5 years ago

2008 impala LT 3.5L engine flex fuel. automatic .at about 40-45 mph tranny spits and coughing shudders until about 55-60mph. is it the tranny or torque converter ? 182,000 miles. does this when it shifts from 2nd to 3rd gear.

bernie staley
5 years ago

shuddering when tranny shifts from 2nd to third gear at 40-45 mph until about 55-60mph. feels like its fouling out. spitting and coughing. tranny is an automatic. could it be the torque converter . 2008 impala 3.5L flex fuel’

Randy Cook
5 years ago

It started just overnight on a 2008 H3. One day the transmission was fine the next day it started shifting hard and barely wanting to shift at all. What would cause it to fail that quickly?

Johnny C Baber
5 years ago

Noise in transmission if it’s hot

Denny
5 years ago

I just had a used tranny put in my Chevy work trck. It is a 2005 3500 series with a 6.0L engine. The tranny seemed to work really smooth for 100 miles or so, now I am getting random shuddering and if I let off the gas it stops. Also reverse seems to slowe down my engine and even stalled a couple of times.

Frans
5 years ago

The car is just driving on one gear and revease. Nit changing to other gears.

lucky
5 years ago

hi i have bmw e39 525i sedan automatic. i did i did change the gearbox oil, new filter and gasket. when i took it for diagnostic they say its a torque converter . corse when i change it into manual it does shows on the cluster all the gears. when i put it into drive it doesnt want to move. it move slowly and even the reverse to. if i want it to move, the rpm must be go higher thats where it starts to move slowly. ild like to know if guys you can help me with machanic who can fix my problem. thanks

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